Transformers Movie Info
Answer only if you hated Transformers 2 and Terminator Salvation (dont want to hear Oh they were good). Why?
did you hate them? i see people list these all the time as bad. Transformers 2 did one great thing... in the first one it was all about two idiotic teenagers hiting puberty and less then 30 min of Transformers fighting.. in the 2nd they might have had the same amount of fighting time but at least it wasnt about Shia Labuff this time lol. Terminator Salvation continued the story set in Terminator 3, and finally tells the war of the future. Great cast, great cgi. Great everything. Cant wait for 5 and 6. For those who dont understand how they did terminator 3 and Salvation read the books that came out over the last several years. Cyberdyne kept back up files of its work, something even Dyson didnt know, and several years after the attack in terminator 2 the back up facility was opened and the files found. So after everyone realizes all this is true, id love to know 1 bad thing about either movie. and why was that? god people are boring with answers. cant even name one thing wrong with either. To the person who asked about Terminator 5 and 6 the reason they havent started making them was money. The franchise went up for sale about a year after Salvation came out. I dont know where it stands now but it was up for sale.
Public Comments
- They were both terrible.
"Terminator Salvation" was crap. And "Transformers 2," yikes.
- Michael Bay doesn't know how to direct one good action scene. He also doesn't know how to make the audience care for his characters.
Michael Bay also has the most juvenile sense of humor in his movies.
- Transformers 2 was just a big explosion and CGI tech demo.
Terminator Salvation I actually liked far for than any of the other Terminators. It has a really good human element to it.
- Micheal Bay would be fantastic at making maybe music videos but using that style to tell a story is just irritating. He doesn't understand that there can be stationary shots, he's always panning from one side to the other - it's effin annoying.
Why did Skids and Mudflap talk and behave like they were from 'the hood'? How in hell do robots from space even understand the mannerisms and slang of such a subculture and why would they choose to employ it? While where on that how was Megan Fox able to seduce a robot? It's a damn robot! Would you look at a muffler and get turned on? Aside from the portion of the movie where Shia is going crazy and has a little episode in class where he writes that formula on the board, the movie was boring.
What's crappy about Terminator 4? You mean aside from the fact that after three movies about John Conner we were supposed to finally see how his father, Kyle Reese, became the man that he was but the entire focus of the movie was re-written to suit Bale who was cast as Conner? Besides that?
It was supposed to be about Reese and how him and people like him had learned to survive after Skynet took over. Conner was only going to be a disembodied voice on a radio, a legend for some survivors but a source for strength to keep fighting nonetheless. It was the story of Reese and Wright bonding (one scene had Wright teaching him how to drive a car, so when Reese was finally able to do it later in the film, it would have given much more emotional impact but the scene was written out so we could look at Bale some more) and was the backbone of the Terminator mythology. It's the same reason that Conner sends a Terminator to the past - he knows from Reese that it's possible to emotionally bond with a Terminator - it was supposed to be a commentary about whether or not the strength of the human passion could change a machine.
Instead it was the same garbage that Hollywood spits out of its cookie cutter. OUuu CGI graphics of giant robots! How awesome! Haven't seen that before at all . . . oh wait see the movie above.
Originally Bale signed on to do a trilogy with the Terminator series. I wonder why the other two movies have yet to start shooting?
Basically you are dazzled by action and special effects and totally can't understand that both movies had horrible storylines because you don't care about storylines. You just want to sit there and stare at the screen while you shove popcorn into your mouth.
EDIT: Look like the other guy said, if you like these movies that's fine. But if the fact that the franchise went up for sale isn't an indicator to you that Salvation wasn't that great of movie then I don't know what is. In fact it made less money than Terminator 3 AND 2. That's right, it made less money than a movie which came out in 1991 when ticket prices were much lower.
- I liked Terminator: Salvation, because it was mature and stable, but the plot didn't have much twist, so it felt short, like an episode. But Transformers 2 was crap; honestly, the total world destruction thing is so familiar, you could see it coming a mile off, and yet that's the plot here too and with a very shallow backup cause. Optimus finished the evil Prime too easily, so people missed some anticipated action there. Not much strategy involved, and so much CGI it makes you start to get bored. Jetfire acting like an old guy made the plot seem unrealistic, robots don't grow beards or need supporting sticks, so the fun factor didn't catch to me. And bringing back Megatron to life and making him just a subordinate enemy was totally degrading- it killed the menacing impression he created in the first movie. Finally, Sam Witwicky goes to limbo to be told by the spirits of Primes that he is a unique hero and is brought back to life- hello? Is there actually any food for excitement other than CGI and hot girls? Even GI Joe was more innovative than this.
- Why do you need to know one bad thing about either movie? It is clear that you liked those movies, why do you want to argue about them with the people who didn't like them?
But, it's your question, I'll try to answer. First of all action is my favorite genre and like to be entertained the best way possible, and that's why I didn't like either of those movies.
yes, Transformers was more about People than actually Transformers and it had like maybe 15 minutes of cool robot fights, but it at least had a plot. It HAD a plot. Rise of the Fallen I can't even call an action movie, it's a movement movie, there's a difference. Robots and people running back and forth, randomly running into each other, running around some more to stop the Rise of the Fallen, whose story is undeveloped, almost non-existent and when you have a non-existent story of your main action genre antagonist & thus undeveloped motivation and reaction of you protagonist, you have a movement movie, not an action one.
but you asked for 1 thing, ok - no storytelling & no consistent action sequences, just random images and scenes thrown AT you.
Termination 4. oh, I don't know where even start - it is a BAD post-apocalyptic movie. I hate to think it bears the glorious Terminator name. The Terminator being the first great action movie I saw (aged 9 or 8) and meaning a lot to me, staying one of the greatest movies ever, so Terminator 4 I took really personal. It was even worse than Terminator 3. The only good thing about 3 - TX vs. The Terminator fight, the only good thing about 4 - the machine thinking he's human. But all they had to say about that was in the trailer, so the trailer was better than the whole movie - beacuse it didn't have unnecessary running, shooting and blowing things up the movie had.
I also didn't like cinematography - it's improtant to me.
1 thing - draggy, dull empty story.
P.S.
I didn't know you were so passionate about this, if I knew I'd reply in the additional details. I love when people are really passionate about movies. I am like that too. And it's great to know that someone likes these movies, every movie deserves to be loved by at least one human being. I know a guy who's crazy about Transformers and Michael Bay is his fav. director ever. I don't argue lol.
- Nothing wrong with Terminator Salvation.
Transformers 2 sucked fucking ass. Here's why: Overfocus and slow motion glamorizing the military and Republican hoorah dumb hillbilly fuck mentality. The twin robots were extremely awful. The parents were cringeworthy and I fucking hated them. Everything that is wrong with the mentality of the majority of America (redneck conservatives) is what this movie thrives on.
